Grateful Dead tunes

[mando_toss_flycoon]

Long live "Crazy Fingers" from the Blues for Allah album. What a fine melody, and fun to play along with.

[ira]

great tune. always one of my fav. dead tunes from what i think was there most innovative and as for the masses/ music industry- underrated. i've picked around a bit trying to mimic the melody, but never really tried it out. are you playing the melody or chords wehn you mess with it? if so, what key/chords are you using???

[mando_toss_flycoon]

I've mostly been trying to play the same notes as Jerry's vocal,using a little tremelo from time to time. Such a pretty melody.

I'm gradually figuring out some chords. Where the vocal comes in at the beginning, it goes D (Your rain), C (falls like crazy), G (fingers). Then it goes to B-flat (pearls of fragile), Fmajor (thunder), Fminor (keeping), G (time). Still working on the rest -- I hope that helps.

[dan@kins]

Two things that just go together nicely, The Grateful Dead and the Mandolin!

Thanks for posting.

[mandolinmatt]

anyone know where i can get tabs to those songs

[thistle3585]

I've been working on the usual Ripple, Uncle John's Band and Friend of the Devil. There used to be a String Cheese Incident website that had a couple of tabs for dead songs.

[high_lonesome_sound]

Try chordie for Dead tabs, the Dead's music is perfect for mandolin if you ask me!

[fishdawg40]

Two things that just go together nicely, The Grateful Dead and the Mandolin! Thanks for posting.

I agree with that one. I've been messing with a bunch recently with the guys from the band. I go to this site (http://www.rukind.org/) for the chords. Any Dead fan knows there's a million tunes to choose from. One recently I've been messing with is "Mississippi Half Step." What a great progression. Does anyone have any advice on scales to use over that progression? I understand why there's so many Dead cover bands...it's so much fun to play the music if you're a fan!

[Mattg]

Of course this is a Rock catagory but we played 5 dead tunes at a bluegrass jam last week. I worked well.

[woodwizard]

Like "Friend Of The Devil" ... we do that one :grin:

[Samjessin]

You can hear Yank Rachell, Gus cannon, and Noah Lewis (What a band!) playing New Minglewood Blues with mandolin.

[GRW3]

"Friend of the Devil" was written by Peter Rowan for Old and In the Way, the Bluegrass band for which Jerry Garcia played Banjo. It drifted from their. The Dead have a lot of songs that are perfect for Bluegrass because Jerry was a Bluegrasser first (before he became a grasser).

[Bigtuna]

"Friend of the Devil" was written by Peter Rowan for Old and In the Way, the Bluegrass band for which Jerry Garcia played Banjo. It drifted from their. The Dead have a lot of songs that are perfect for Bluegrass because Jerry was a Bluegrasser first (before he became a grasser).

I'm pretty sure "Friend of the Devil" was written by Robert Hunter. Robert Hunter wrote a good deal of the Dead's lyrics while Jerry did most of the music.

[lespaul_79]

I thought FOTD was a Robert Hunter Tune. Didn't know Peter Rowan (who is da man), wrote much with Jerry and crew.

Besides that, I think there are some live shows from archive.com that have Grisman on a tune or 2 from 1970. Probably around the American Beauty recordings. Which was before Old and in the Way, BTW.

[jefflester]

"Friend of the Devil" was written by Jerry Garcia, Robert Hunter, and John "Marmaduke" Dawson (from NRPS). It was released on the Dead's "American Beauty" album in November 1970. David Grisman played mandolin on the studio recording. The Dead first started playing the song in concert in Feb of 1970. As far as I know, Peter Rowan had nothing to do with the song.

[SternART]

Come on George......get out your LP copy of American Beauty, where it lists Garcia, John Dawson from NRPS, and Robert Hunter as co-authors.

jefflester beat me to it........

[Tom C]

Mountains of the Moon is cool to do. Imitating the harpsichord(sp?) is perferct for the mando.

[Dave Greenspoon]

Anyone have the standard notation for Ripple? I found the chords easily enough, but I'm looking to really be able to nail the melody line correctly. Thanks!

[bgjunkie]

Good Dead resources:

http://www.rukind.org/ (http://www.rukind.org) - TAB


Greatful Dead Lyrics and Song search (http://www3.clearlight.com/~acsa/intro.htm). This site allows you to search for songs by each member of the dead and any solo project.

[Dave Greenspoon]

I've found the notation for [I]Ripple.[I] As it was, the congregation's cantor had it in his study.

[Mattg]

On the guitar the melody for the Ripple rif is easy because you can do it right out of the chords. Dont' know it for the mando.

Ya, we do friend of the devil at BG jam. I like to do it better at folk jams. It seems like when people do the song at a BG jam, they don't know where to put in breaks. It's funny to listen to the start cause everyone starts noodling in all directions in the lead in chords. It's better as an arrainged tune than a jam tune IMHO.

Also, some BG jams have some folks that prefer gospel. I've seen it make a few folks uncomfortable cause the title tends to run counter to their beliefs. No one has ever said anything cause they are trying to be cool but I can catch a bit of a vibe. However, no one every says anything about murder ballads. I could do without those.

[kvk]

anyone know where i can get tabs to those songs

Try here-- http://www.deaddisc.com/GDFD_Songbooks.htm

I picked up ones title Grateful Dead (Working Mans and American Beauty) and Grateful Dead Vol 2 (Blues for Allah and Wake of the Flood) along with the Anthology back when I was in college. If you read notation or just want the chords and lyrics, these are fine. The illustrations in the first volume are great too.

[frankseanez]

My faves these days from the Book of the Dead are Help on the Way/Slipknot/Franklin's Tower out of Em and Shakedown Street in Dm. In the JGB area, I'm having lots of fun lately with That's What Love Will Make You Do and a Dear Prudence out of A that jams into a Dani California in Am.

[ira]

anyone figure out the intro riff to the tune and the riff/progression to the chorus for dark star (mando, guitar, anything?

[AlanN]

My fave Dead tune for mando is Space :))

Bad joke...

I think Dark Star is mostly out of A, would have to re-visit that one. My all-time regret is that Garcia didn't use Dawg on the old Compliments record, particularly on Russian Lullabye. Seemed like a natch.

[mandocrucian]

In the past, I transcribed and transferred a bunch of Garcia solos, rhythm figures etc. over to mandos. If a rhythm section (bass/drums) gets into a Dead-ish groove/shuffle, I can pull off a decent Garcia guitar impression, especially with electrics.

Workingman's Dead: "Dire Wolf", "Black Peter", "Uncle John's Band"

Grateful Dead (Skull & Roses):"Wharf Rat", "Me & My Uncle" "Big Boss Man", "Goin Down The Road Feelin' Bad"

Garcia: "Loser", "Sugaree", "Deal", "Bird Song"

Europe 72: "China Cat Sunflower", "I Know You Rider"

American Beauty: "Candyman", "Ripple", "Friend of the Devil"

not "Dead" songs per se, but their cover versions

NH

[Peter LaMorte]

NH,
Sounds great, Have you posted these to a site? I'd love to have them.:whistling:
Thanks
Peter

[jefflester]

anyone figure out the intro riff to the tune and the riff/progression to the chorus for dark star (mando, guitar, anything?

http://rukind.com/ has it.

[Barry Platnick]

I cant seem to find a download or a copy of or any recording of the Mother Mccrees Uptown Jug Champions disc release a few years ago?

Any help?
thanks

[Miked]

I Know You Rider is a kick to play in a jam. It's one that's so permanently etched in my mind and people pick it up pretty easy. One banjo player commented that it was some nice folk music; I couldn't disagree!

Of course, the Grateful Dead didn't write the song, but most folks assoicate the song with the band. Dick's Picks V8 has an acoustic set with a slow version. Acoustic Hot Tuna does an absolutely smokin' version of it. Barry Midderhoff's playing is outstanding! Not to get off-subject, but on a Fur Peace Ranch recording that I have, Jorma quips "No, I didn't learn it from the Grateful Dead". Great Stuff!

[Barry Platnick]

Yeah I'll sometimes finger pick a slow Jorma version at our local pick and people dig it. Although someone always calls a fast tune after.

But is there anyone that knows how to connect with that Mother mccrees uptown jug champions disc?

[jefflester]

I cant seem to find a download or a copy of or any recording of the Mother Mccrees Uptown Jug Champions disc release a few years ago?
Sounds like you are looking for it for free?

[ehOhioGrown]

cutter, i have a torrent of a live recording of mother mcree's at some cafe in palo alto. i can't remember where exactly i found it, but if your familiar with torrents i could upload it somewhere for you to download if i can't find where i originally got it. Actually now that i'm thinking i remembered, it was a whole pre dead jerry garcia thing, a few warlocks recordings, solo stuff, some other folk stuff. but the recording is suprisingly good for '64. So i'll make a torrent of just that recording if you'd like, cause the whole pack was a couple gigs i think. I'll try and do it today, i get off work early to go to the doctor so i'll actually have some free time later. i can't remember all the tracks but i know it has : my gal, overseas stomp, monkey and the engineer, etc.
I'll PM you link.

[Barry Platnick]

Actually, Jeff I dont need it free I just cant find it anywhere.
I tried to go the various site to buy the down load or disc and cant seem to find one active.....any leads?

[jefflester]

Actually, Jeff I dont need it free I just cant find it anywhere.
I tried to go the various site to buy the down load or disc and cant seem to find one active.....any leads?
When you say can't find an active download that implied to me a free MP3 or a bittorrent source, sorry if I misconstrued. I just checked my usual places (musicstack.com, gemm.com, eil.com, Ebay) and didn't find it for sale. I would suspect the Mother McCree's CD has never been available on a for sale MP3 download site. Searching for out-of-print music can be a challenge, but you gotta stick to it. I recently found a Counting Crows CD-single with a rare B-side that I'd been pretty actively searching for for about 5 years.


EDIT: I forgot Amazon. There are actually a couple of copies there from sellers, but cha-ching!
I certainly wouldn't pay that much for it.
Amazon link (http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000VFJV90/ref=dp_olp_0?ie=UTF8&qid=1227116708&sr=1-1&condition=all)

[Barry Platnick]

chalenging is right!

apparently for a whlie anyway the GD site had it in MP3 form for sale even though the viny ( or whatever the cds are made of) was un available
but alas no more

I'll keep looking

BTW any one got the lyics for MY GAL off that record?
thanks

[feels like a newb]

i am not a mandolin player but i am a bass player. i don't play very well and i don't play very often but i do play from time to time. recently the dead are what inspired me to pick the bass up again. help on the way is the current fixation.

[journeybear]

[QUOTE=Mattg;580893]On the guitar the melody for the Ripple rif is easy because you can do it right out of the chords. Dont' know it for the mando.QUOTE]

Try it in G. Much of the melody falls right out of the chords. Sometimes it's all I can do to NOT play the opening riff when strumming a basic G chord. :mandosmiley:

[Mattg]

Try it in G. Much of the melody falls right out of the chords. Sometimes it's all I can do to NOT play the opening riff when strumming a basic G chord. :mandosmiley:

Exactly! It's fun to flatpick on the guitar.

Hey Barry, we gotta play more Dead at Borders! I've been working on Dark Hollow in C.

[Alex Orr]

Dick's Picks V8 has an acoustic set with a slow version.
I LOVE that version! Very, very soulful. Jerry's singing is first rate. I often break out a slow version of "Rider" if I'm jamming with folks who don't mind playing a Dead tune.

[Miked]

I LOVE that version! Very, very soulful. Jerry's singing is first rate. I often break out a slow version of "Rider" if I'm jamming with folks who don't mind playing a Dead tune.

Yep, it is a goodie!

Check this out Alex:

http://woubmedia1.tcom.ohiou.edu/Live%20from%20Jorma%20Kaukonen%27s%20Fur%20Peace%2 0Ranch/

The 6/30/06 show at about the 40 minute point. Definintely worth a listen!

[kirkwhitehead]

So I know the chords to a bunch of Dead tunes but for the life of me I am not able to get the melodys. Anybody have any mandolin tabs for GD songs? I mean I can noodle around but it sounds like...well , me noodleing around. Which isn't very good.


thanks

kirk

[Alex Orr]

I can noodle around but it sounds like...
Hey, isn't that what the Dead basically did for thirty years :))

[kirkwhitehead]

yes but they noodle better than me.

kirk