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POB
Mar-19-2004, 3:28am
Hi all.

I'm a long-time lurker here, so I figured it might be time to try my hand at posting:

Is it just me, or does anybody from musical genres other than Bluegrass ever feel that fellow musicians think they're slightly daft for playing mandolin-family instruments? Has anyone got any stories they'd like to share, to illustrate this phenomenon?

My favourite happened about 12 years ago when I had just bought a gorgeous new Joe Foley bouzouki. I was, and still am, very proud of this machine. Now, in many circles in Irish music, there is a belief that the button accordion player is THE MAN. And within some of those circles, the louder and harsher tuned the accordion, the happier people are. (As someone once said "The worse, the better".)

So, it happened that I ended up sat beside such an accordion player at a session in Tralee, Co. Kerry. He was a nice bloke and between tunes we were having a chat. He asked me what my instrument was and I told him, explaining that I had recently bought it and it was hand-made. So he asked me how much I paid for it and I told him - IR£650 (a very good price, in my opinion).

"Six-hundred and fifty pounds?!!!", says he, "Are you mad?!!!" I politely pointed out that, yes it was a lot of money, but he must surely have paid far more than that for the multi-coupler mother-of-pearl Paolo Soprani accordion that was sitting on his lap. He considered this for a moment and then pointed out the obvious flaw in my logic...

"I know," says he, "but this is an accordion!"

Sellars
Mar-19-2004, 5:20am
"I know," says he, "but this is an accordion!"
http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif unbelievable! http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif he said this with a straight face?

Bruce Evans
Mar-19-2004, 5:39am
You might also point out to him that your instrument was custom built by a craftsman, and that his accordian was assembled by many workers in a factory.

Scott Tichenor
Mar-19-2004, 5:42am
"I know," says he, "but this is an accordion!"
Brilliant post. Best this month in my opinion!

POB
Mar-19-2004, 6:12am
Yes, he said it with a totally straight face. He just figured I didn't understand that his instrument was more important than mine, and he was kindly explaining it to me. After all, I was just a backer - what would I know? #http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Now, I must re-emphasize that he was a nice guy and he wasn't being rude or condescending - he genuinely just had a very different perspective on Irish music to me. I just smiled to myself and got on with the session - no point in getting in an argument.

Besides, I've got great mileage out of that story ever since. I've always reckoned a bad session is only ever really bad if you don't knock at least one good story out of it.

GVD
Mar-19-2004, 6:30am
Slainte Pádraig !

Thanks for the story. Man I've been laughing for 5 minutes now. Unfortunately my coworkers just don't get it and can't undrestand why I have tears in my eyes. http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

GVD

Christine W
Mar-19-2004, 6:48am
What a hoot. http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

mandopete
Mar-19-2004, 8:36am
Oh, that's rich # http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif


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(The cafe member who formerly wore clothes)

pklima
Mar-20-2004, 8:48am
Very funny story. Kind of reminds me of trying to explain to a few folk guitarists that my bass strings cost more than a cheap electric bass. Or trying to explain to a violinist why an electric guitar had five knobs and four switches, for that matter. Different worlds...

ShaneJ
Mar-20-2004, 6:08pm
I guess in the bluegrass world, the line would be:

"I know," says he, "but this is a b@nj*." http://www.mandolincafe.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

PapoAnaya
Mar-21-2004, 3:12pm
Hi all.

Is it just me, or does anybody from musical genres other than Bluegrass ever feel that fellow musicians think they're slightly daft for playing mandolin-family instruments? Has anyone got any stories they'd like to share, to illustrate this phenomenon?

Well... not really... In Puerto Rican trad. cuatros, guitars, tiples and mandolins get along pretty well and you may find similar prices fluctuations accross instruments. I guess would be the same with other groups of musicians that the bulk of their music relies on strings that its bulk of their repertoire is ethnic, like Greek, traditional Spanish (from spain), Italian and Portuguese music to say the least.

We do take jabs at each others though, but that's part of the fun. Trying to tell the other which instrument is more out of tune than the other.

But an accordion... I do not know why the image of a geeky guy playing the polka comes to mind. Although in his defense, one time on a wedding one guy had one of these electronic accordions and was carrying the whole dance by himself with the aid of a drum box and some electro doo dahs.

I guess that it comes what is the perceived value of an instrument. I presume that the guy thought that because he can play the melody and its accompaniment for a given song puts more value than a "simple stringed" instrument.

Nevertherless, how much a stradivarius violin runs nowadays??

Luis