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arbarnhart
Jun-01-2005, 8:32am
I have been learning from books, CDs, DVDs, tabs and volunteers at jams for a little while. I have background in guitar and piano, so I already knew how to read music and strum and fret and whatnot, so it is going pretty well. But I feel like I am kind of scatter gunning; playing a little of this, then that, scales some days, picking melodies by ear others, various chord progressions and I tend to tailor today's practice toward the next jam, which has alternated between blues (neighbors with guitars) and bluegrass (local beginner get together). So I decided to look into lessons. There are a couple of local music schools that are somewhat curriculum based, but that doesn't appeal to me.

I found someone who appears to be a good match - Bett Padgett (http://www.bettpadgett.com/bett_padgett.htm). She is a local folk musician who sings, plays guitar, mando family instruments, piano and percussion. She did all the instruments on some of her CDs (http://www.bettpadgett.com/Ceilidhe%20Music.htm) and she teaches music at a local university. Her studio is near my office and she has some weekday time slots open. The price is right.

Here is a snippet from her site:
From beginners to folks who have played for many years! Bett enjoys teaching all levels in many styles, primarily rhythm, finger style, open and alternate tunings. Folk, country and pop music, a little jazz, always trying to find new interesting arrangements for old songs. She mostly enjoys helping folks learn the kind of music they want to learn, and especially helping songwriters with their own music, guiding them through the process with theory and many rhythmic choices and styles.

Her music is different than what I want to play, but she has taught others in different genres and there really aren't many acoustic blues mandolin teachers anyway (what I want to play most, though I will also play some bluegrass, Celtic, classical, jazz, pop, carols and anything else that gets in the mix known as my mind). Anyway, what questions would you ask? How do you evaluate potential teachers? At this point, my gut says sign on for a few lessons and see how it goes.

John Flynn
Jun-01-2005, 9:20am
I think your gut is right. You never really know how it is going to go with an instructor until you try at least 4 or 5 lessons, so I would just give it try. What I would concentrate on is getting straight with yourself about what you want to accomplish and what your learning preferences are. Explain all that in the first lesson and then see how well the instructor seems to be guiding you in that direction. Also, really get in the habit right off of diligently practicing what you are taught. If you don't practice, the instruction time is much less valuable. Also, the instructor will pick up on it and may not challenge you as much as you need to be challenged to improve.

arbarnhart
Jun-01-2005, 10:13am
I forgot to mention that she also said she could give me some voice tips since I said something about wishing I did that better (I don't think I will ever be a great singer, but it would be nice to carry a tune well enough to learn and/or teach a song). She's been teaching music over 25 years. I think my gut is right also but I wanted to run it by the collective wisdom in case the proximity, availability, price and voice tip offer were clouding my judgement. The only concern I had was genre, but acoustic blues is not a far stretch from folk, country and jazz (all of which I have some interest in anyway).

Ken Sager
Jun-01-2005, 11:20am
Music is music. Learn from a good teacher then apply that knowledge/technique to your genre of choice. Be open to anything, you might be surprised what happens.

Good luck with your adventure,
Ken

WaywardFiddler
Jun-01-2005, 12:00pm
The key is finding a teacher with whom you can communicate. At some point, you need to reach a meeting of the minds about how to get you to where you want to go. As mentioned above, it pays to know where you want to go :-) After that, you need build a shared vision of those goals with the teacher and a plan to get there. A teacher that is great for one person may not be great for somebody else. It really is a highly personal decision so don't worry about what other people think of your decision.

arbarnhart
Jun-01-2005, 1:06pm
I have to agree about the communication and the "plan" (wish I had one). I am not worried so much about what people think about my personal decision as much as just making sure I remember to ask the right questions and think about the right things to make the decision. I just happened to get a "friend of friend" relayed recommendation for the very same teacher today, so it is what I will do.

mandocrucian
Jun-03-2005, 10:25am
and there really aren't many acoustic blues mandolin teachers anyway (what I want to play most

Come up to Virigina for a few days of private lessons and I'll teach you as much blues mandolin as you can absorb at the time (and continue to work on for the next 6-12 months.)

Niles Hokkanen
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As a general observation, there's a high percentage of folks who are desirous of the illusion (or fantasy) of instruction, rather than the reality of being a student and making real progress at their endeavor. (They probably don't even realize it until they are faced with actually putting in the time and effort). High up on the priority list will be price, proximity, and scheduling convenience. The celebrity quotient of the the instructor can play into it too; some like to be able to name-drop to their pals even if have they pay more (and not necessarily getting higher quality instruction). Or if it one of the expensive summer camps, the "happening/event" aspect is a big marketing attraction.

some of my views regarding teaching, etc. (http://www.mandozine.com/resources/CGOW/niles.php)

randolin
Jun-04-2005, 9:47am
After thirty years of teaching I totally agree with everything Niles said....the reality of sitting alone playing scales for hours is where the rubber meets the road... to mix metaphors, and MOST students don't understand just how much time it takes to really learn these instruments.
But I think one of the most important factors is finding a teacher that plays the music you want to learn. I have had countless students transfer to me because their mando teacher doesn't actually play Bluegrass but thinks they can teach it. There are huge but subtle differences in both technique and feel between the different styles of picking and unless your teacher REALLY plays it they can't teach you.